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Say “No!” to warehousing “tender age” children

We cannot allow this.

The large vacant warehouse in downtown Houston has housed women and families who were once homeless and adults displaced by Hurricane Harvey.

Until now, however, it has never sheltered small children who are on their own in a strange country, many of them separated from their parents who were jailed after illegally crossing the southern border.

Southwest Key Programs, a Texas nonprofit that has a lucrative contract with the federal government to care for thousands of unaccompanied immigrant children, confirmed Friday it has signed a lease with the owner of the warehouse at 419 Emancipation Ave.

Its application with the state requests a general residential operating license to hold up to 240 children between the ages of “0 to 17.” Several stakeholders who work with immigrant minors said they have been told the facility would largely serve “tender age” children who are younger than 12, as well as pregnant and nursing teenagers.

[…]

Federal officials said Friday about 2,000 children have been separated from their parents between mid-April, when Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the new zero-tolerance policy, and the end of May.

The sudden surge has overwhelmed the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which now has more than 11,400 children in their care in about 100 shelters across the country that are almost full. The ORR has issued calls to agencies that run such facilities for the government to see if they can increase their capacity and are considering housing children in tent-like structures on military bases, including in Texas.

“They are being required to house increasingly large numbers of very young children … who should have never gone to (the agency) in the first place,” said Jennifer Podkul, director of policy for Kids in Need of Defense, a Washington, D.C., advocacy group that provides services to unaccompanied minors.

Keeping such young children in a residential facility like the one proposed in Houston would represent a sharp shift from previous practice.

“My understanding is that the kids would be sleeping at this facility in Houston, and that’s surprising and would be a different structure than we’ve ever seen before for this type of population,” she said. “This would be the first one.”

Small children and pregnant teenagers are usually placed with foster parents who work with specialized organizations that contract with the federal government to provide such care. The minors spend their nights in a foster home and their days in a licensed facility for children, where they are provided services such as medical and legal screenings.

“Traditionally the government has relied on families and supported homestays for this population because of their special needs,” Podkul said. “Very young children can’t sleep through the night all the time. They have physical limitations because of their size. … I don’t know how you provide for that in such a large facility.”

This so-called “shelter” would be one of these:

In South Texas, pediatricians started sounding the alarm weeks ago as migrant shelters began filling up with younger children separated from their parents after they crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally.

The concerned pediatricians contacted Colleen Kraft, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, and she flew to Texas and visited a shelter for migrant children in the Rio Grande Valley. There, she saw a young girl in tears. “She couldn’t have been more than 2 years old,” Kraft says. “Just crying and pounding and having a huge, huge temper tantrum. This child was just screaming, and nobody could help her. And we know why she was crying. She didn’t have her mother. She didn’t have her parent who could soothe her and take care of her.”

The number of migrant children in U.S. government custody is soaring — partly the result of a policy decision by the Trump administration to separate children from their parents who are being prosecuted for unlawful entry. Hundreds of the children being held in shelters are under age 13.

Medical professionals, members of Congress and religious leaders are calling on the Trump administration to stop separating migrant families. They question whether these shelter facilities are appropriate for younger children.

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Pediatricians and immigrant advocates are warning that separating migrant children from their families can cause “toxic stress” that disrupts a child’s brain development and harms long-term health.

At the facility in South Texas, Kraft says, the staff told her that federal regulations prevented them from touching or holding the child to soothe her.

While shelter managers and other experts say there is no such rule, Kraft says the confusion underscores why these shelters are not the right place for young children — especially kids who have fled dangerous countries and who have just been separated from their parents. “By separating parents and children, we are doing irreparable harm to these children. The long-term concern of what we call toxic stress is that brains are not developed efficiently or effectively,” Kraft says. “And these children go on to have behavior problems, to have long-term medical problems.”

This is cruel and inhumane, and it is being done as a matter of deliberate policy. What kind of people want to separate parents from their children like this? CM Robert Gallegos, in whose district this would be, wrote this on Facebook:

The mayor will host a press conference early next week regarding the federal government’s proposal. While the City was not involved in the decision or notified beforehand, we will advocate for these children and do all we can to ensure they are cared for with compassion and dignity. Children should be with their families, not warehoused in a detention center hundreds of miles away from their parents. The Trump administration’s inhumane policy of separating families is shameful and goes against the very values our nation was founded on.

Sen. Sylvia Garcia released this statement:

This week it was discovered that federal authorities, in conjunction with contracted private partners, have signed a lease to open a baby jail to detain child immigrants just east of downtown Houston. State Senator Sylvia Garcia issued the following statement in reaction:

“Now is the time to gather together to stop this baby jail before a single child seeking refuge is locked up in our city. The Trump administration has made it clear that it will rip children away from their parents despite legal and child development experts telling them that it is unnecessary and known to cause lifelong harm. No law requires this. Humanity demands compassion. We must say as a community with one voice that jailing children away from their parents is wrong, it should not happen anywhere, and we as Houstonians will not allow it to happen here. Not now. Not ever.”

We need to hear from all of our elected officials. This is an abomination, and we cannot let it happen.

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93 Comments

  1. Manny Barrera says:

    People who lack a conscious do not weep for someone of color, trying to make it a black and brown issue, that is how racists work. That would be Shaw whom the Trump worshiper mentioned above.

    If it was not Shaw, they would find a Gay person, or a Jewish person. Rabbit holes is what the Bills of the world want to take you.

    Where are the tears for the people murdered by Dylann Roof, Bill. I don’t recall you stating how people that look like him should be locked up. Why not lock up their mothers and fathers, and brothers and sisters, because the crime of one belongs to the family under the theory of the Bills and the Trumps of this world.

  2. Manny Barrera says:

    I never cared for Obama because of things like

    In this case, three-year-old “Josue” and his mother, “Teresa,” were detained for more than 645 consecutive days in family detention centers, or “babyjails,” in Texas and Pennsylvania. Josue learned to walk and talk behind bars and his only memories are those formed within the walls of the Berks detention center.

    Josue and his mother fled physical and sexual assault and threats of kidnapping in Honduras in October 2015, one year after the “immigration surge” of 2014. The Obama administration had previously implemented the controversial policy of jailing asylum-seeking mothers and their children en masse during the credible fear interview process, the first stage of asylum proceedings. The pair was detained briefly in Karnes City, Texas, before being transferred to a different, smaller detention center in Berks County, Pennsylvania, where they languished for almost two more years. http://immigrationimpact.com/2017/08/09/immigrant-child-released-detention/

    But the Trumps and the Bills of the world are gloating about separating the parents from the children, much much worse situation. The parents don’t have an idea if they will ever see their children again.

    We can’t let the Bills and Trumps of the world make this the picture that the world sees as our country. It is our country like Trump I seriously doubt that Bill or any of his immediate family has ever fought for our flag.

  3. Manny Barrera says:

    This Comedian pretty much sums up how I feel about what is happening to the children,

    http://www.newsweek.com/kathy-griffin-melania-trump-immigration-children-separation-melanie-twitter-980454

  4. Bill Daniels says:

    Josue and Teresa could have gone to another city in Honduras where no one knew them for relief, or asked for asylum in Guatemala…..in Mexico….in Belize. Hell, based on the facts they don’t look like they qualify for asylum, the judge here just felt sorry for them because their case fell through the cracks. Most of the other families involved in the case were sent back home. I’m assuming the judge is racist, too? Theresa was venue shopping for the best gibs, which is why she ended up in the US, instead of starting her life over in another area of Honduras, or in Guatemala, or in Belize, or in Mexico, all countries she had to either go through or pass to get here.

    Manny, my preferred way to solve the problem is to build a wall so illegals like Theresa and Josue can’t get here in the first place, but since your people are fighting that tooth and nail, this is where we are at. They have to be detained, separated, and processed for removal. Hopefully we can make that process faster.

  5. voter_worker says:

    @Bill: In idealistic terms I’d wholeheartedly support a North American arrangement using the EU as a template. Non-criminals from the Panamanian border with Colombia to the tip of the Aleutians would be able to travel and work freely anywhere in North America. In the short term, cessation of child concentration camps would be a start.

  6. Bill Daniels says:

    I’ve shamelessly stolen this from Reddit’s the_donald forum, but I think it’s a good write up as to how we got where we are. Manny’s aforementioned Flores vs. Reno case, combined with the 9th Circuit Court ruling bring us here. Trump’s choices are either to ignore the law, or to enforce it as it is. He ran on, and won on, enforcing the law.

    “Happy Monday everyone, /u/richmomz here to set the record straight on what’s been going on with border enforcement. Over the past week there’s been a lot of uproar over the separation of illegal immigrant families that seeks to make an emotional appeal that this is ‘all Trump’s fault.’ The fact is that our President is doing precisely what the law and case precedent calls for, laws which in many cases were established under Democrat administrations. Since our media has completely failed in its duty to properly inform the public on an issue of import, this humble internet rando shall take it upon himself to do their job for them.

    The root of the problem is something called the Flores Consent Decree which stems from a 1997 case (Flores v. Reno) involving unaccompanied minors. The Flores Decree basically states that unaccompanied illegal immigrant children can only be held for 20 days, aren’t allowed to be sent to a jail, and must instead be sent to “the least restrictive facility possible” (ie: someplace more like a daycare than a jail).

    “But WAIT! These kids aren’t ‘unaccompanied’, they came with their parents – that’s the whole problem!” you might be saying. Well here comes the other shoe – the 9th Circuit ruled that the 20-day holding period limit must apply to family units as well. The result is that it is currently illegal for law enforcement to hold ANY immigrant child for more than 20 days, even if their parents have to be held longer. If the parents don’t agree to voluntarily deport, the only legal result that can occur if the law is enforced, is separation.

    The only way around this is to simply not enforce our immigration laws (as Laura Bush stupidly proposed in her recent op-ed), thereby signaling that anyone on the planet can come into our country illegally without facing ANY legal consequences so long as they enter with at least one child in tow.

    Here’s the TL:DR if you haven’t had your morning covfefe yet: This policy was put in place by liberal court judges long before Trump entered office, ironically to protect children; The only thing that changed is that the government is now enforcing our immigration laws rather than giving a free pass to illegals that enter as family units (which was previously the case).

    The only way to legally prevent adult/child separation under the clusterfuck legal standard set by Flores v. Reno and the 9th Circuit is to either A) Ignore the law and open the border to anyone and everyone who has kids, or B) Push Congress to fix this through legislation.

    For further reading on the subject, see: https ://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/

    Here’s an article about the idiotic 9th Circuit ruling which made it illegal to detain illegal immigrant kids with their parents: https ://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-u-s-violates-agreement-detention-immigrant-children-n398261

    Also see today’s excellent post from /u/frenchtrumpette which lists examples of immigrant family separations going back as far as 2009 where the Obama admin was doing the exact same thing. Note that some of these cite examples of parents being separated from their anchor babies as well as immigrant family separations: https ://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/8ryszu/guess_what_separating_children_from_parents_began/”

  7. Bill Daniels says:

    https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfzfe8f9NI

    “The United States will NOT be a migrant camp, and it will not be a refugee holding facility. Won’t be.”

    President Donald J. Trump, 6-18-2018

    Trump is practically taunting Congress to do something about all of this. Will they?

  8. Manny Barrera says:

    Like Trump the rabbit always wants to go to another hole, change the subject, listen to the criminals that the Trumpkins want incarcerated, below, it is an audio of the babies in jail crying for their parents. Those that support have no humanity, they are worse than animals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=PoncXfYBAVI

    Read the comments that is what the whole world will think of America.

  9. Bill Daniels says:

    Manny,

    All I have to do to see kids crying and being taken away from their parents is watch an episode of Cops. You know who doesn’t have their kids taken away from them? People that don’t break the law. Let me tell you how this is all going to play out.

    This started with a former Obama guy posting a picture of kids in a cage, circa the Obama era in 2014. That got called out pretty quick as an Obama era photo, the era where he invited unaccompanied minors, AKA gang members, to come here, but all the sudden this became the newest cause de jour for leftists, because the “muh culloosian” narrative no longer sells. Now I know that separating these illegal kids from their parents really does upset you…..you’re the real deal, and I believe you. For the rest, this is just the latest narrative to try and make Trump look bad, and they only care about them for the political hay they think they can make. They had nothing to say when Obama was incarcerating tens of thousands of kids, but now, ‘muh outrage!’

    Now, as to how it’s going to go, Trump did the EXACT same thing he did with DACA. He forced the issue and put it back in the hands of Congress to fix. I predict that Congress won’t actually do anything to change the law, unless an enraged citizenry gets them to do something.

    The nice thing for my side is, it’s pretty easy. There will not be a super majority of either side in Congress this go round, so the choice is, take the Trump DACA/wall/immigration deal that Trump laid out the last time and solve the problem, or do nothing and we will just keep separating kids from their parents, because that is what you do with people who have broken the law.

  10. Jules says:

    Trump/Sessions/Nielsen are responsible. They are evil. This is a horror.

  11. Bill Daniels says:

    https ://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/8s3vc8/just_because_your_child_gets_across_the_border/

    “Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay.”

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, CNN 2014

  12. Manny Barrera says:

    Trump and his immoral inhumane worshipers have declared war on children, DACA and now children.

    Bill you can’t spin it away, calling you a racist is actually much more than you deserve.

  13. Manny Barrera says:

    As I stated Bill has no heart, he is a soulless mass of elements.

  14. voter_worker says:

    @Bill: some random Reddit guy or my gut feeling about this situation? Sorry, going with the gut. You should be concerned that Stephen Miller has led the President into a quagmire. No foundation.

  15. voter_worker says:

    @Bill: Senator Cruz is not on “your side” either. The logjam is breaking. https://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Ted-Cruz-introducing-legislation-to-keep-migrant-13005089.php

  16. Bill Daniels says:

    @Voter:

    I could actually go along with that, although I think it will be unworkable due to a lack of judges/prosecutors/courtrooms/etc. We make an expedited decision on the asylum claim within 14 days. Great! That means the vast majority will be sent packing in two weeks. For the ones that may have an actual claim, I don’t see how you can do the investigation needed to verify a claim in two weeks. I also don’t see how you adjudicate all these cases so quickly, given the limited resources we have.

    If we could do it, that would be great, I’d support it, and it would seem like bipartisan common sense legislation. We catch you, you’re gone no more than two weeks later, except for a few that genuinely have a shot at an asylum claim. I don’t think Dems would pass this, though, because they don’t want anyone deported, period, and this would most definitely result in prompt deportation for most. My guess is it will be DOA.

    Having said that, if the logistics could be worked out, I’d support it. Would you, Voter? How about you Manny? Do we have a consensus?

  17. Manny Barrera says:

    Bill you don’t care about anyone but maybe yourself and I think you mentioned a mother once.

    I wouldn’t make deal with the devil and he has a better chance at it.

    Can’t trust Cruz to work anything, but he will say he tried, just like the other anal opening Hurd.

    listen to the children crying Bill, it is not a movie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=PoncXfYBAVI

    Nations are now considering freezing Trump’s assets in their countries, serves him right. Stock market flat this year, the wonder racist is running out of Obama steam.

  18. voter_worker says:

    @Bill: I’m skeptical of its prospects, but yeah, I could support this framework if we had any assurances that Congress would get its act together and come up with comprehensive reform. That’s a big if, and the “wall” and DACA are just two of the many stubborn barriers to reaching a solution.

  19. Bill Daniels says:

    Manny, you’re a textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. When the Dems held the House, Senate, and the presidency, what did they do for your illegal brethren? Nothing but DACA sound about right? You are facing a minimum of 6 1/2 years, maybe more, before you have a situation again where Dems have a clean sweep. and you won’t make a deal because Trump and Cruz are big meanies? Really?

    Remember the big dust up about DACA? That’s over, other than you, no one really cares about that issue anymore, just like they won’t care about this issue, just like they didn’t care when Obama was detaining tens of thousands of illegal kids. Trump offered you a solution that gave you more than twice the number of DACA folks the Dems asked for, and will prevent new illegals from being separated, because they won’t be able to get in the back door any more, and you are holding firm to your principles. That’s shows a lack of compassion on your part, for your own people. Trump wants a permanent solution to this problem, just like he wants a permanent peace with N. Korea, just to stroke his ego, and you don’t want him to have that glory, because F Trump, and you are willing to toss the dreamers under the bus, because F Trump some more.

  20. Jason Hochman says:

    @Manny: back to calling everyone a rabbit, or a Russian, or a racist. The 3 R’s, which are used to kill any debate or discussion. You would be happy to re-ignite a cold war, I am sure.

    A few problems: one of the photos of the kids in a cage was actually from 2014, during the Obama years. Another is that Senator Feinstein is all up in arms now, but “didn’t know enough” during the previous administration.

    By the way, I keep waiting for you to join me in my drive to have Mayor Turner impeached for his policies that encourage segregation. Since you are very alert to racism, I wonder why you haven’t raised the alarm about what is going on in our own community, and our voices can make a difference. My interest is somewhat selfish, though: I am sad that my neighborhood has become a gated community with a few cupcake stores and a few palatial bars that serve beer that costs $8 and has goofy labels. I miss my neighbors and beer flavored beer.

  21. Manny Barrera says:

    Jason the other rabbit makes an appearance, how many children have you and Bill help kidnap today?

    Did I mention that photo? Of course not. But, rabbits,racists, and Russian lovers with no souls would bring up something like that, I really don’t give a ____ what you are any other person like you think of me.

    You want to see the cages the Gestapo recently released images of them. It is a recent photo – http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-family-separation-mcallen-texas-migrant-children-cages-2018-6#the-migrants-are-contained-in-large-cages-sleep-in-mattresses-on-the-floor-of-the-facility-and-are-given-foil-blankets-for-warmth-border-patrol-agents-told-media-that-everyone-in-the-facility-is-given-adequate-food-access-to-showers-clean-clothing-and-medical-care-1

    Those photos are staged, so we don’t have any idea of what really is going on. Do you know where the missing 1,500 children are? Like the other rabbit you don’t care.

    But you come here because what your neighborhood has increased in value or because you can’t buy two dollar beer. What the heck are you talking about? I want to live in River Oaks but I can’t afford it, so is your problem is that you can’t afford to live in your neighborhood anymore. So what is your problem, that supersedes the suffering of children? Tell me Jason maybe I will join you. I remember when 6th Ward was almost all minorities, I remember when the Heights was the same way. 3rd Ward, heck I remember when MacGregor was primarily Jewish. I recall Sunny side being white, well in transition. So tell me Jason what is your problem. I will allow the rabbit hole you brought to run its course, just open up and tell me what the real problem is.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/Sunnyside-6851488.php

  22. Manny Barrera says:

    Bill how many holes will you run into to mislead or out right lie?

  23. Manny Barrera says:

    Oh Jason, I worked with Gladys House in trying to maintain the 4th ward as it was, Freedmen’s Town.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Freedmen-s-Town-dead-or-alive-6829518.php

  24. Manny Barrera says:

    So Jason tell me about the rabbit hole and Turner promoting segregation. Elaborate so I can understand what you are getting at. Tell me about the rabbit hole you brought up.

  25. Jay Trainor says:

    The least I can do is protest Southwest Key’s involvement. There are two addresses for the company in Austin. One is on Cameron Rd and the other, a large facility, is on Jain Ln.. Which is the corporate HQ?

  26. C.L. says:

    It’s a Do Nothing Congress – has been since BO was elected in 2008. Ain’t nothing going to change until new folks, who are willing to get something done, are voted in.

    That’s what November is for.

  27. Bill Daniels says:

    @ Jules:

    All this is really good news for Trump, because all the screeching lets us know he’s right over the target. If our legislators are really in anguish about the zero tolerance program (zero tolerance being a liberal idea, by the way), then maybe they will get serious about passing Trump’s solution to the immigration issue, including that big, beautiful wall. Would have been great if they had done it back when he asked nicely, before he had to bring the pain, but at least he has their attention now.

    Congress and North Korea are more similar that one would think, and in both cases, the time for strategic patience is over.

    Also, I agree with the Methodists, I think Sessions is terrible, too, but probably for different reasons. I’m sure Trump would be happy to can him, but he can’t, because the never Trumpers in Congress won’t approve anyone else he picks, and McConnell has cancelled part of the recess to make sure Trump doesn’t sneak a recess appointment in. So hey, I don’t like Sessions either. Should have been fired the day he recused himself. You’ll notice Mueller, Rosenstein, Strzok, McCabe, and the rest of the boys were truly heavily conflicted, but they didn’t feel the need to recuse. Sessions shouldn’t have, either. My personal theory is that Sessions is the insurance policy they talked about in Andy’s office. It’s just too perfect. Neuter the AG and let everyone else run wild.

  28. Bill Daniels says:

    Hey Voter:

    Remember that fairly reasonable Ted Cruz proposal to keep families together as they wait to be deported? Chuck Shumer just shot that down.

    https ://twitter.com/WiredSources

  29. Jason Hochman says:

    @Manny: not a rabbit hole at all; read it here, and then ask your council man to impeach. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/houston/article/HUD-City-s-subsidized-housing-procedures-promote-10857101.php

    Impeachment will allow an investigation into these policies, because I am sure that they are continuing. How can you sit back and let this happen in your town? And then to see Turner getting all righteous about how he doesn’t want the kids in custody here in Houston. I ask you though, what sort of parent brings their kids across the border with a coyote? How do we know that these are really the parents of the kids and not traffickers who want to sell the kids?

  30. Manny Barrera says:

    Jason are you you that ignorant, he could be recalled but not impeached. At least learn what can be done.

    So you are complaining because he would not build low cost housing in the Galleria? The subject was children and you go attack a Black Democrat Mayor, that is why you and the other rabbit are always changing the topic because it is always the Democrats. You are a worthless piece of soulless mass of elements.

    Explain to me why the stock market has been flat this year. Last year I pointed out to the other rabbit that 2017 belonged to Obama, this year it belongs to Putin’s puppet.

    Last see if that mentally deranged Russian puppet keeps his promise of tariffs on everyone. Those people with 401s will not be happy.

    No go read some more Drudge Reports and load yourself with the manure they give you.

    The other rabbit forgot that the Russian puppet shut that proposal down, but he lies and lies and lies some more. But Cruz never had any intention of doing anything that would pass, he reads the polls they take, he ain’t doing to good. I am not the only one that thinks that.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/06/19/ted-cruz-flip-flop-family-separation-shows-threat-gop/sKVgmExabejoyrwp4XxNkJ/story.html

    I will even you rabbits something from Fox, read it and it says more judges http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/18/sen-ted-cruz-introduces-emergency-bill-to-keep-immigrant-families-together-slams-dems-proposal.html

    Trump says I don’t want more judges, https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/06/19/donald-tump-immigration-judges-border-security-sot.cnn

    So Jason why don’t you can try to impeach the Mayor, good luck with that. I am proud of the work that the Mayor is doing and the police chief he brought in.

    You go tell those rich folks to change their minds and to donate the property of low income housing. Will wait for you to do that rabbit.

  31. Manny Barrera says:

    I would work to stop soulless mass of elements from moving into Houston, if it were possible.

  32. Manny Barrera says:

    The other rabbit, you will have to much better than that, than to just direct to twitter, it is like my saying go to google, but rabbits are devious and liars but not smart.

    But rabbit what Shumer did state is they don’t need a law to fix, all the Russian puppet has to do is say stop it. That is what he did when he started it, he said start, in fact they started planning early in 2017. They could have worked on the laws.

    But you rabbits don’t care about the truth, you don’t care about children, you are worthless pieces of elements that hate this country and worship your man god and love Putin.

  33. Manny Barrera says:

    Jules don’t believe anything the rabbit writes with few exceptions they are all lies, the fact is that Democrats have a Bill ready, all of them have signed it, but the Russian puppet and his worshipers are not interested in a solution.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/18/all-senate-democrats-now-support-bill-would-prohibit-border-separations/710803002/

    But, like I mentioned to the other rabbit, Trump could stop by just saying STOP!

  34. Bill Daniels says:

    Manny, you and Cryin’ Chuck are two peas in a pod. You don’t actually WANT to solve the problem, because you don’t see that there is a problem. Chuck thinks he is going to make Trump look like the bad guy here and get him to revert back to catch and release, just like with the short lived Shumer Shutdown. We all know how that worked out…..not good for Chuck.

    Trump’s a master of marketing, and he’s going to make ordinary Americans see that he is legitimately trying to permanently solve the problem, and Chuck is playing games. Point: Trump.

    Personally, I feel bad, because the Cruz plan, even though it isn’t the package that Trump wants, and the package the country actually needs, would be a win-win for both of us. I get faster deportations, and you get an end to child separation. Win-win. But of course, you don’t really even want that, much less a permanent fix.

    Enjoy your crying kids. That’s all on you and Schumer at this point. Take the pain, Manny, because that’s how Trump negotiates, and he tried to play nice first. Hell, he even offered you a piece meal fix via Cruz, and Shumer blew that off.

    One more thing, why not take it from the horses’ mouth? Most of the kids in DHS custody were brought here, not by the parents, but by traffickers. 10,000 of the 12,000 or so in custody weren’t even brought in by their parents. You care about the kids, so let me ask you, do you think they are better off with the traffickers, or better off safe in the care of the government?

    If you want to skip to 14:40, you’ll get the gist, if you don’t want to watch the whole Neilson presser:

    https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1exA8ik5QI&feature=youtu.be&t=14m44s

  35. Manny Barrera says:

    There is a very good alternative to the Canadian, and that is Beto, he is on the right side of the issue https://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/separating-families-beto-O-Rourke-policy-trump-13003942.php?ipid=hpctp

    By the way, it seems that Trump and his Gestapo may have lost over 6,000 children. When they said 1,500 that was for a 3 month period.

    So where are the children, some parents have started suing the US because after six months they don’t know where their children are.

    Two holocaust survivors said it is as bad as the Nazis. https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/dallas-holocaust-survivorsees-reflection-faces-children-separated-parents

    We need to take this country back from the soulless animals that are running it at the moment.

  36. Bill Daniels says:

    Manny,

    I read your USA today article, and it’s grossly lacking in substance. Exactly what does the Dem proposal include? If it is simply a return to catch and release, well, yeah, good luck with that.

    Got a better link of the specifics?

  37. Manny Barrera says:

    The rabbit will claim I only had one survivor so https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/us/holocaust-survivor-on-immigration-trnd/index.html

    There are more such articles, rabbit google it

    What people like the rabbits above is go to places like the Drudge Report where they pass out lies to idiots like them, maybe I am wrong, maybe

    Below is a link to how they were posting photos from Syria to justify the detentions.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/us/holocaust-survivor-on-immigration-trnd/index.html

    NOTICE NO GIRLS IN THE IMAGES THAT THE GESTAPO HAVE RELEASED! That is because they don’t want to show those images they want to portray all those children as gang members.

  38. Manny Barrera says:

    Rabbit look it up, if you really care, it has a lot more substance than of the lies or misdirections you have posted.

    Why not address the part that Trump could just say stop it but he won’t. He started by saying start it.

    But I will point to the Bill, Bill so read it because you will find some language to go off on, but is much more than you normally produce

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/3036/text

  39. Bill Daniels says:

    Manny,

    That proposal is a joke, right? The pertinent part is right here:

    (3) DETENTION.—In general, there is a presumption that detention is not in the best interests of families and children.

    So, this, combined with Flores v. Reno pretty much means a mandatory return to catch and release, because we can’t jail the kids with the parents, and ‘detention is not in the best interest of families and children.’ No wonder no Pubs signed that.

    All you’re left with is your leaders crying on TV telling Trump to stop being a big meanie.

    Pro-Tip: Trump doesn’t bluff, and he doesn’t back down. You know what he wants. I posted his immigration plan for you. That’s it, take it or leave it, although I’m sure he’s willing to engage in a little detail negotiation. He’s not heartless. Until then, buy Kimberly Clark, because Kleenex is going to be flying off the shelf for a week or two until just like Stormy, no one cares about this anymore.

    And here’s my own personal prognostication……Congress won’t do the immigration deal right now, until Trump applies more pressure, namely DACA dies at the SCOTUS and he gets to start deporting DACA folks. Personally, I’d have a few malcontents, agitators, and criminals in my sights ready to grab on day one, just to make a point.

  40. Manny Barrera says:

    Do you take me for an idiot, he has no plan,

    A leadership source said the meeting was not helpful for the prospects of passing either immigration bill.

    A Freedom Caucus source was even harsher.
    “It’s a total miscue from the administration,” the source said. “Both of these bills are designed to fail, and the President is the only one who doesn’t get the joke.” Source

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/immigration-border-children-separation/index.html

    Like I said a rabbit, and no Bill save your stupidity for the other soulless masses of elements. They can keep them all together, they could put bracelets on the parents, there are many ways they can keep track of them Bill. But like I said you are a rabbit with misdirection and lies, just the man god you worship. Good night, I won’t waste any more time on a mindless hateful Russian loving racist rabbit.

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