I’ve been on the road with limited Internet access, so I’m just now catching up on recent events. Unlike our garbage president, I wholeheartedly condemn the appalling racist violence committed in Charlottesville by a bunch of Nazi scum. As such, I was heartened to see this.
A white nationalist rally planned on Texas A&M University’s campus has been canceled, apparently out of concern for student safety, officials confirmed Monday.
The school made the decision after consulting law enforcement and “considerable study” because of “concerns about the safety of its students, faculty, staff and the public.”
“Texas A&M’s support of the First Amendment and the freedom of speech cannot be questioned,” the university said in a statement Monday afternoon.
“However, in this case circumstances and information relating to the event have changed and the risks of threat to life and safety compel us to cancel the event.”
You can learn the details of this now-canceled event here; I have no desire to give these jackwads any mentions. The asshole who organized this thing says in the story that he plans to sue. I think based on the deplorable events in Charlottesville that A&M has a pretty good public safety argument to make, but I guess we’ll see what the courts have to say. It’s certainly possible A&M could get overruled. Given that, you might want to make note of this Maroon Wall counterprotest, which had been prepped to go on at the same time, just in case it is still needed. It would be best for this to now be obsolete, but if that is not the case then it sure would be nice to completely overwhelm these fascists with huge numbers of actual decent people. Beyond that, kudos to the legislators who called on A&M Chancellor John Sharp to cancel the event, and to Sharp for heeding the call. In the meantime, if you need something to do now, there are things that can be done in Austin, in Missouri City, and in Houston. People need to speak up, but we also need to take action. The Rivard Report has more.
I’m glad you finally got around to this. What we saw this weekend was (no pun intended) deplorable. Jackwads is a good euphemism, but probably not strong enough for what we saw on ALL sides. The white racists are personally embarrassing to me, but let’s not forget that without Antifa/BLM/various other assorted and violent leftists also on scene to start fights, there would have just been an ugly display of hate that would have quickly been forgotten.
Unlike the BLM and Antifa protests, I only saw violence when the white nationalists were challenged and attacked. BLM and Antifa need no challenge to break windows, burn buildings, assault people, etc.
As to Trump’s statements, his first statement seemed appropriate to me. There was violence committed and engaged in by most, if not all the factions there, both permit holding protestors and the counter protestors. Trump condemmed all of it. That’s the correct play. He didn’t absolve any side, he just condemned all of it.
Of course that wasn’t good enough for people who have TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), so we get a second statement specifically calling out the KKK, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists. And of course, even THAT isn’t good enough. Of course it isn’t. Trump has said more than enough, and there’s nothing to be gained by making more statements about it.
He should quit trying to play a rigged game. There’s no play he could make that would satiate his haters, so really, why bother. His response is more than adequate for me, and probably, from anyone who looks at this impartially.
Sessions has already said they would be doing a civil rights investigation into the whole thing. Good. I hope the instigators on both sides get arrested in the dragnet and do real jail time.
Sharp was between a rock and a hard place there, but I agree that was the right call. Yes, even Nazis get 1st Amendment rights, but given what happened this weekend, a cooling off period is wise. Let both sides take a time out on the campuses. I’ve got family and friends attending TAMU, and I’d like for them to study in peace.
Trump’s response was a new low, even for him. The initial reaction to an event is the best clue to what is truly in a person’s heart, and his initial reaction showed that he doesn’t want to reprimand his fan club. Finally saying some of the right words 2 days later after intense criticism is lacking a lot of sincerity.
With regard to the kid who mowed down protestors with his car:
The crowd he ran into was armed, and violent. We can clearly see from the video tape his car being hit by a guy with a baseball bat PRIOR to hitting people, and then, after the accident, we can see plenty of baseball bats, and I saw a still photo of at least one steel pipe. I also saw a separate video of other cars being attacked by the crowds, including a silver Lexus and a maroon minivan. As always, I’d like to know what happened prior to the kid ramming the protestors. Was his car being attacked by protestors? If so, he’s got a ready made defense…..he didn’t want to become this generation’s Reginald Denny.
We need to learn more about what happened prior to the tape rolling.
Good lord Bill, you will bend over backwards to defend Trump’s inadequacies. BLM or antifa didn’t drive a car into a crowd and kill and main people. When Muslim terrorists have used that tactic in the past, Trump didn’t hesitate or mince any words in his responses. Also he shouldn’t have responded immediately with the proper words condemning the guilty parties (i.e. Alt-right, Whiste supremacists, kKK) because he wanted to preempt any critics. He should have done it because it was the right thing to do.
Remember the hate crime in Kansas City where a racist asshole murdered two innocent people because they came from India and wounded a 3rd man who tried to stop him? Do you recall how long it took Trump to even comment on that?
One more thought about all of this……if you keep demonizing white people, and keep pushing identity politics, and keep pushing and pushing, you’re going to get backlash, AKA “whitelash” (credit to Van Jones). This whole thing was entirely predictable. Extremists beget extremists. And now it really isn’t even left vs. right, now it’s just flat out tribal. Sad.
A little mood music for anyone who bothers to watch the videos of the C’Ville debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owJJQgt_jgs
Here’s my own rule…. Encounter crowd who begins hitting my car with bats or signs or rotten tomatoes ? Drive the other way.
Fly:
Let’s brainstorm for a bit. Say that instead of the neo-Nazi idiot driving the car, it was an Antifa or BLM counter protestor who drove the car into a crowd of violent white supremacists. In other words, say everything went down as it happened, that day, save for reversing the players in the car attack.
What would you say then? Would you be upset with Trump for his initial statement? Would you be upset with the followup statement, that Trump only called out the Antifa and BLM while ignoring the white supremacists who also participated in everything that day, just because it happened to be a BLM at the wheel of the car? Be honest.
No brainstorming required Bill. You denounce the guilty parties, whomever they are. I loathe the alt-right, but I wouldn’t support anyone who ran a car into them just for marching and saying stupid things.
Three other points, first, it wasn’t just Dems and lefties who were on Trump’s case here. Plenty of GOPers criticized his underwhelming initial reaction. 2nd, I don’t see the neo-Nazis and KKK distancing themselves from the driver. In fact, some of them are saying ugly thing about the woman who died. Such fine upstanding citizens. 3rd, speaking of upstanding citizens, some background on the driver:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/suspect-deadly-virginia-car-ramming-due-court-49200503
“One more thought about all of this……if you keep demonizing white people, and keep pushing identity politics, and keep pushing and pushing, you’re going to get backlash, AKA “whitelash” (credit to Van Jones). This whole thing was entirely predictable. ”
It’s nothing new. LBJ had the right of it when he said that if you gave the poor White man someone to look down on, he’d empty his pockets for you. Working class White people aren’t getting shafted by Black and Brown people . They’re getting shafted by people like Trump.
I don’t think that the most appropriate response to armed Nazis marching in the streets chanting “Blood and Soil” is contemplation of how we might have provoked them by protesting when the police shoot unarmed black people.
White men are not an oppressed group in this country.
The seeds of divisiveness are sown, and there are no winners in race and gender wars, but politicians are able to advance themselves but stirring up animosity among the people. It is high time that FDR be removed from the dime, and all monuments to him be removed in retribution for the concentration camps for Japanese Americans.
Fly,
If Reginald Denny had run his truck over a bunch of people in L.A., rather than get beaten near death, would you automatically call that terrorism?
“It is high time that FDR be removed from the dime, and all monuments to him be removed in retribution for the concentration camps for Japanese Americans.”
This is your fallacy of distraction known as the false equivalence. What happened to Japanese Americans was wrong and was racist and is indeed a black mark on FDR’s record. No excuses there. But you also have FDR’s legacy of leading America through its worst crises other than the Civil War- the Great Depression and WWII. So what’s the complete legacy of someone like Jefferson Davis? He committed treason against the USA for the purpose of preserving slavery. But if you’ve got something good to post on his historical balance sheet, have at it.
Also at least some of the victims of the camps got actual reparations, which was more than the former slaves got.
No. I saw the video. Denny was minding his own business and was attacked. All the pictures I’ve seen so far from Charlotteville do not show the car being attacked. He can have his day in court and make his case.
Not only that, but video clearly shows him accelerating (through an intersection, where he could have turned if he was truly trying to “escape”) into the crowd of people.
Given that, as well as what we now know about his beliefs, it’s probably going to be hard for the driver to claim that he was trying not to end up like Reginald Denny. But he will have his day in court.
The violence on the part of some of the counterprotesters is regrettable (as a commenter on another site observed, “if you partake in a violent protest against Nazis, you’re acting as an unpaid field producer for Fox News”). That being said, a demonstration where people show up waving Nazi flags, wear KKK emblems and shout racist slogans can probably expect an extreme reaction.
That the adoption of nazi ideas, rhetoric, gestures, tactics and visual imagery by a disaffected demographic is causing a massively hostile reaction should come as no surprise to anyone. From my perspective we’re bending over backwards to not hinder them from exercising their First Amendment rights.
@Flypusher; H L Mencken, in his obituary for Roosevelt said of Roosevelt, “He had every quality morons esteem in their heroes,” and went on to say, that through his demagoguery and anti-logic, he could prove that 2 + 2 was five. As for Davis, the Rice University Jefferson Davis papers say that he had a beautiful green chair, and was hero of the Mexican War and later wrote an extensive history of the Confederacy.
Trump knocked it out of the park at his presser today, the one presumably about infrastructure. Of course, the press tries to hit Trump for, I’m not sure, wrong feelz? Not enough feelz? Trump laid out the facts of what happened, Pointed out that this was originally about a stautue, pointed out that the first night protest with the tiki torches was peaceful, no rioting, no looting, no arson (despite all the torches, LOL), and that it was only until the violent counter protestors showed up that sparks flew. Asked if we are going to be taking down Washingon and Jefferson statues next. LOL! States the obvious that there’s blame on both sides. So much winning.
Trump coins new term ‘alt-left’ that apparently encompasses Antifa, BLM, and other violent leftists. Tells the braying reporters they are fake news, and in summary, handles the presser like a boss (pun intended).
I’m sure some of you will interpret it different, but if you were going to watch only one press conference video, this is the one to watch.
Churches who were planting to protest peacefully were threatened and asked people to help defend them. Thus the guns on both sides and in fact they thanked members of Antiafa for having protected them from being hurt by the Nazis and KKKers.
With both groups heavily armed it will not be long before those semi-automatics with a zillion bullets start being used by both sides.
The police in the presence of such fire power took the course they saw best to protect themselves also, stay out of it and let them shoot each other.
Thank you Mr. Trump for making America great again.
I get called racist so much that the term is losing its meaning. When people full off hate show up to protest I ignore them. They are a dying breed. I agree with most of what bill says about the rally. If Trump cured cancer he would be criticized.
Let them beat each other, keep your eyes on the guns.
Paul when will he cure cancer? He is an illegitimate president that got elected with the help of the Russians, as one US Senator said today, he ain’t my president. One should wear their beliefs proudly Paul. Those shouting Nazis did.
Trump has dug into the dung pile so deep at this point that it matters not what comes out of his mouth, the opposition will pounce on every word. If he would just shut his trap about fake news and speak eloquently and from his heart….oh shit, who am I kidding ? He’s a train wreck !
“Churches who were planting to protest peacefully were threatened and asked people to help defend them. Thus the guns on both sides and in fact they thanked members of Antiafa for having protected them from being hurt by the Nazis and KKKers.”
Link to list churches that want history destroyed and the statue gone?
Neither,
Russia got Trump elected? Lol.
C.L.:
With Trump you’re getting what you were promised, blunt, straight talk. That presser was facts over feelz and it was outstanding.
You are right. The press is infatuated with “gotcha” games and loyalty oaths. “Do you renounce xxx, and all his works, and all his empty promises?”
Trump generally refuses to play the game (although he actually got roped into it with his second condemnation of the violence, because the first one wasn’t acceptable). The press goaded him for more and got beat down when he refused to play the game, and it just infuriates the virtue signalling press. THIS right here is what flyover country voted for.
@Paul,
Remember the good ol’ days when you were a Russian troll? Now you’re back to being a Nazi. Everything old is new again, especially now that left leaning The Nation is pretty much admitting that the “muh Russia” DNC hacking was in fact info leaked by an insider, not hacked by Russia. Speaking of, who is Seth Rich?
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
Salon also published this.
Bill you have a bad habit of putting words in people’s mouth, where I have seen that done before.
Yes Paul with the help of the Russians, Trump got elected. There were plenty of Hillary haters also, but without the Russians Trump would not have won. They hacked into the emails and stole them. Trump encouraged it and encouraged their release.
Bill and Paul, we all are prejudice. Some just don’t know it and thus are not able to overcome their prejudices. I have no idea if you all are racists or bigots or Nazis or KKKers.
We disagree and we do it with words not guns that is the beauty of this country, well at least thus far. But I see lunacy.
I think politicians need to look at protests and guns and limit them. I remember when we couldn’t carry a sign with a stick as it could be used as a weapon. I guess what I am seeing is progress.
Just watched a clip of his Press Conference. The press has lost its mind. Probably the best press conference since Reagan was President. Bill still agree with you.
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/08/vice-news-just-released-chilling-must-watch-footage-from-behind-charlottesvilles-battle-lines/
You wanted a link Bill there it is up there.
Yes, Paul you and Bill keep agreeing, but you are a small minority. How that repeal of the ACA going? The Republicans have become a party of hate, they can’t govern, this state is getting there also as sanity seems to have left Republicans.
I always knew that Trump racism would only work in attacking the vulnerable, the minorities, the gays, and the Muslims, and I would add Jews but he gave his daughter to one, a rich one.
neither,
The world is a lot larger than this blog.
Yes Paul, I have seen quite a bit of it, but internet opens quite a bit more of it up to us. The only reason that Trump and Republicans keep control of the Senate and President at this time is because of the effects of slavery, thus the two senators per state, or the way electoral votes are portioned out.
I also subscribe and place my views on some papers like the New York Times and Washington Post, to which I subscribe. I also gave the Texas Tribune money, also Bloomberg Business Week, there are are also other places like Huffington Post, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, don’t keep up with Brietbart they have nasty pop ups, Daily Kos, Daily Beast, Mother Jones, Vox, The Gurardian, Buzzfeed, and there are a few others. Those are just some of the ones from this country. Of course there is the Chronicle which I hate to pay for, but it has been doing better lately. Houston Press is terrible online. I do go visit Marc at least twice a week, and will go see Brains and Eggs once a week, Dos Centavos about every two weeks. But I do have a state park pass and a national park pass and cool weather is just around the corner us fat old people don’t like the heat.
But I think you meant that you and bill are in a minority here in the blog, oh how are Trump’s poll numbers doing. While not national Democrats have been winning state seats in some very red districts in some states. Trump will turn Harris County Blue in 2018. Heck who knows if the Democrats don’t get someone to run against Abbott I might just go lay down a filing fee and run for governor of Texas, things are changing.
Neither,
“The only reason that Trump and Republicans keep control of the Senate and President at this time is because of the effects of slavery” Here is a link for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_in_the_United_States_over_time
So I started to think did you really believe what you said? Maybe you are just a kid and maybe you are a product of a public school education. Maybe you never studied history. I don’t know but to make such a statement shows a complete lack of knowledge of your past at least to how it relates to the political parties and who was in control.
As to A. & M cancelling the rally. I am glad they did. Let the racist sue. When they get there permit the College Station Police need to be like H.P.D. was during the Republican debate. Separate the protesters with a divided highway of moving traffic and all the law enforcement needed to keep the peace. The first group of people who decide to leave the protest area gets arrested for failure to obey the lawful order of a police officer.
Unlike you Paul, I do read more than wiki. I could do the research for you, but I don’t know if you really care that much about the history of our country.
Here is one article, but much in depth study of the issue is required.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Constitution_Senate.htm
Since you like Wike here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Compromise
One more Paul, but really books are the best source
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/creating-new-government/resources/constitution-and-slavery
In fact the counting of undocumented which Republicans want to change, is but a continuation of the mentality of slavery and the rights of whites over others. There are some exceptions
@ JH- Mencken had many wonderful pithy quotes, and could snark with the best of them, but I don’t think his obituary is enough to override the consensus of the historians. Whether or not you liked his politics or methods, FDR lead the USA through some dark times. His body of work sums up positive. In the case of Davis, even the finest, most objective work of scholarship on the CSA isn’t going to make up for trying to split up the USA. Plus he lost, and losers aren’t supposed to get statues in places of honor. In a museum, sure, but not the town square.
Since we’re invoking history, here’s something fascinating:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/718507/striking-graphic-reveals-construction-confederate-monuments-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras
Peak Confederate monument construction happened not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, but in 1910-20 and the Civil Rights era. What did those 2 time spans have in common? Racial tensions. Also note that General Lee himself was quite prescient in his disapproval of erecting Confederate monuments.
Trump claims that this was just about protesting the removal of Lee’s statue. What, pray tell, does chanting “blood and soil” and railing about Jews have to do with General Lee or the Civil War?
It’s handy that people are standing up and being recognized as supporting Nazis. Thanks, Bill, for making it clear where you stand on Nazism, fascism, and white nationalism.
Flypusher, I could also point out that the decades of peak Confederate monument construction were approximately 50 and 100 years after the war which are anniversaries that people tend to commemorate.
Jason, that would be a silly thing to do, because the biggest surge in construction of monuments and statues honoring rebellious slavers began in 1905, and the later bump started in the mid-fifties.
Robbie,
This feels a whole lot like the Cultural Revolution in China. Please quote ANYTHING from Trump’s statements about Charlottesville that is not factually accurate. I watched a lot of video of that, and both sides were violent, which is what he said. He also correctly pointed out that not everyone on each side was violent, that there were some good people interspersed with the violent folks on each side. He specifically denounced the KKK, the neo-Nazis, and white supremacists as bad. Also true.
You folks are feigning outrage, as if we were watching 60’s civil rights protests where the permitted protestors were wearing suits, were completely non violent in the MLK tradition, and were just attacked, with no provocation or violent response. That just is not true. The unpermitted smattering of Antifa, BLM, and most probably rent-a-mob protestors were armed and ready for bear. Watch the videos. You want people to look at the events that unfolded and say 2+2=5. Uh, no. You’ll notice that all those violent whites with tiki torches didn’t burn down any buildings, assault people, loot, smash windows, or commit other violent acts the first night they gathered. The violence occurred the next day, when the unpermitted counter protestors showed up with their baseball bats, mace, piss bombs, homemade flame throwers, etc. I’m sorry, 2+2 does NOT equal 5, and we’ve got a president willing to stand up to you and say that, and you just can’t stand it.
Here’s a little truth bomb for you. Antifa? BLM? Occupy Wall St.? Those groups are MORE violent than the few neo-Nazis, KKK and white supremacists, and they perpetrate their violence more frequently that the pro-statue groups. [insert “but muh moral equivalency” here] In this instance, both sides behaved badly, but it’s verboten to actually SAY that. The media is in a tizzy because Trump called a spade a spade, and not only that, he hit back. This was about a statue. What’s happening in Houston? People are clamoring for a statue they probably have never laid eyes on to be removed. Trump threw it in their faces by asking when they were also going to remove statues of Washington and Jefferson, and believe me, that’s coming up once we get rid of the confederate statues. There was already a dustup about Sam Houston. You going to be out there cheering on the toppling of big Sam in Huntsville? I ask, because that will be on the menu soon enough.
Why didn’t we yank down MLK statues after BLM murdered 5 Dallas cops? MLK didn’t support gay marriage, so obviously they guy was pure evil, right? Why didn’t we yank down the statue of Lenin in Seattle when the Bernie bro tried to gun down half of Congress? This is the insanity of your position, and this thinking is why Trump got elected in the first place. Keep it up, and you guarantee his reelection, which is absolutely fantastic for me.
I love it when you call me and other people who disagree with you Nazis, fascists, misogynist, racist, whatever. It’s absolutely fantastic, because what you are doing is taking everyone who is centrist, middle of the road and pushing them toward Trump, because he’s not afraid to speak the truth.
“In war, truth is the first casualty.”
Aeschylus
“In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
George Orwell
You can join Neither on the hurling insults bus, because that’s all you’ve got left when the facts are not on your side.
One final thought about all this:
Kessler, the guy who actually got the permit for the protest, was formerly affiliated with Occupy Wall St and was an Obama supporter.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19747/reports-man-behind-unite-right-was-occupy-wall-james-barrett?ref=patrick.net
Think this whole thing was manufactured to gin up outrage?
….and next up on the Cultural Revolution hit list is Teddy Roosevelt:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19741/leftist-activists-demand-new-york-museum-take-down-michael-qazvini
“Flypusher, I could also point out that the decades of peak Confederate monument construction were approximately 50 and 100 years after the war which are anniversaries that people tend to commemorate.”
Which it no way refutes that these monuments went up during the time that Jim Crow laws were being passed or when the Civil Rights Movement was gaining momentum.
“I love it when you call me and other people who disagree with you Nazis, fascists, misogynist, racist, whatever. It’s absolutely fantastic, because what you are doing is taking everyone who is centrist, middle of the road and pushing them toward Trump, because he’s not afraid to speak the truth.”
Robbie is not responsible for your gullibility Bill. Trump is the biggest liar in American politics. The fact checkers are working 24/7 to keep up with all the bullshit he flings. He will screw you over eventually too, just as he has with many thousands of others who trusted him. When that happens, I will not feel sorry for you.
Snopes disagrees that Kessler has ever had an Obama or Occupy Wall Street connection. When an article starts off with “Rumors abound….” I see red flags. Bottom line: branding yourself as nazis guarantees a massive and well-deserved wave of disgust headed your way. Most of us got the intended message delivered by the Unite the Right contingent. Most of us are not interested in excuses or explanations on their behalf.
@Bill… re: “It’s absolutely fantastic, because what you are doing is taking everyone who is centrist, middle of the road and pushing them toward Trump, because he’s not afraid to speak the truth.”
That’s a pretty rich statement, as I suspect 70+% of the population would agree that POTUS wouldn’t know the truth if it knocked on the door of his khaki slacks and white polo shirt. Hell, he can’t even seem to keep his business community CEO ‘friends’ on the various govt business councils.
C.L.
We are witnessing 1984, in real life. I’ve asked others, now I’ll ask you……please quote anything from the three Trump statements about Charlottesville that is in fact, not true.
The left is asking, nay, demanding that I overlook what I saw with my own eyes on the various and sundry videos of the events and violence, and come to the conclusion that only the alt-right folks were violent and that the alt-left were not only blameless, but innocent as driven snow. 2=2=5. Keep looking at it until you see it.
The CEO’s are being cowed just like everyone else in the country to fall in line and cheerfully admit that 2+2=5. Sorry, but this groupthink isn’t going over well with anyone I know, save for some of the posters here, who are quick to fall in line with whatever the party is spouting this week, which happens to be statues.
Hey, you guys wanna rip down statues? I’ve got a deal for you. Go ahead and rip down all you want. In their place, you can put up statues of the 5 dead Dallas cops that BLM murdered.
“I’m offended” is no longer a valid trump (pun intended) card for me. Oh, these statues you didn’t know were there your whole life until a few days ago are suddenly the worst thing EVAR?
Yeah, sorry for your fee-fees. (not you particularly, I’m speaking generally about the folks with newly ginned up outrage)
“We are witnessing 1984, in real life. I’ve asked others, now I’ll ask you……please quote anything from the three Trump statements about Charlottesville that is in fact, not true.”
Challenge accepted. The fact checkers are doing God’s work in calling out all Trump’s lies. All one has to do is go to Google and there is a veritable buffet. So here are 3 lies for you.
Lie 1: “Because I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit.”
That got a “pants on fire” from Politifact and 4 Pinocchios from WaPo: “The permit was issued to Walt Heinecke, an associate professor of educational research, statistics and evaluation at the University of Virginia’s Curry School of Education. The “special events certificate of approval” for a public demonstration at two parks in Charlottesville, McGuffey Park and Justice Park. Those are located within one and two blocks, respectively, of Emancipation Park, the location of a Robert E. Lee statue and the destination for the Unite the Right march. The certificate covers Saturday, Aug. 12, from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.”
Lie 2: ““What about the ‘alt-left’ that came charging at, as you say, the ‘alt-right’?” This is a false equivalence lie. Yes there are violent leftist fringe elements, but they are not equal to the right wing groups in numbers or damage inflicted. From the Cato Institute, a scorecard for the past 25 years in domestic terrorism: “White nationalists; militia movements; anti-Muslim attackers; I.R.S. building and abortion clinic bombers; and other right-wing groups were responsible for 12 times as many fatalities and 36 times as many injuries as communists; socialists; animal rights and environmental activists; anti-white- and Black Lives Matter-inspired attackers; and other left-wing groups.” There’s also the little matter that the antifa have zero connection with the Democratic party, but the alt-right has Trump’s blessing, and Trump is the leader of the GOP.
Lie #3, the worst lie of all: “Before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.” That piece of fruit is on the ground. Trump is notorious for speaking or Tweeting before thinking, especially if the target is one of his favorite punching bags. So does he think that we are all to stupid to remember that, or is he too stupid to remember that?
I will have to research #1. #2 YOU need to back up. Trump never ran on, nor claimed to be the standard bearer for morality. He ran on running the country like a business. You have confused Trump with Mike Huckabee.
Remember the @#$$% tape? People voted for him in spite of, not because of that. Trump has not claimed anything about morality. All that is coming from leftist virtue signaling that ignores the violence of Antifa, BLK, Occupy, etc.
#3? Eh, not really. Truck runs over 100 people minding their own business in Spain? Terrorism. Car drives through a riot zone and kills someone? Might need to get facts. Could be terror, could be road rage could be someone not wanting to become Reginald Denny II.