Permitless carry

Posted on April 18, 2021 by Charles Kuffner

I had a hard time coming up with anything to say about the Lege passing a bill to allow anyone in Texas to carry a gun, no permit or education or license or anything else required. What is there to say? No one who supports this – and yes, there were a handful of mostly South Texas Democrats who voted for it as well – cares about gun violence except to think that more guns will somehow mitigate it. No one who supports this cares about the often-made comparison to the legal requirements one must meet in order to drive a car. No one who supports this cares that law enforcement organizations opposed this bill because it makes them less safe. No one who supports this cares that public opinion is strongly against permitless carry laws and strongly in favor of enhanced background checks and other gun control measures. No one who supports this cares that an amendment to bar “domestic terrorists and white supremacists” from carrying handguns in public was voted down. Like I said, what is there to say? Maybe the Senate won’t pass it, but I have no reason to put any hope in that. The Chron has more.

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18 Responses to Permitless carry

  1. Flypusher says:
    April 18, 2021 at 7:16 am

    One word sums it up- insane.

  2. David Fagan says:
    April 18, 2021 at 8:50 am

    “legal requirements one must meet in order to drive a car.” Couldn’t tell in Houston.

    I’m going to go ahead and throw this gasoline on the fire, what was the amendment’s definition of “white supremist”?

  3. brad says:
    April 18, 2021 at 9:12 am

    Answer: GOP Texas House Caucus

  4. Bill Daniels says:
    April 18, 2021 at 9:51 am

    LOL, at the ‘White supremacist’ boogieman. In case anyone was under a rock for the last few years, it’s the blm black supremacists that are burning and looting cities, that are creating violent mobs, attacking innocent restaurant patrons, homeowners, businesses, etc. I’ll concede that the ‘just and idea’ antifa is predominately White, but they aren’t White supremacists, now, are they? They’re angry, disaffected, self loathing losers who hate America. They align politically with the blm, not with the elusive, almost impossible to find, ‘White supremacists.’

    The whole ‘White supremacist’ trope is simply designed to vilify and marginalize people of whiteness, just like Jews were vilified by the Nazis. The Jews were being victimized, having their homes and stores destroyed, being attacked on the streets, blamed by the government for all the ills of society…..just like what is happening to Whites today in America. Critical race theory? It’s the modern version of blame the JOOOOOOSSSS!

    As to the constitutional carry bill, yes, it’s overdue. People have a right to defend themselves from predators and violent mobs. Beyond that, requiring a CCW permit to carry a gun is discriminatory towards blacks and Mexicans, because they are too poor and stupid to be able to get the ID required to get a CCW license. We should ALL be outraged about discriminatory laws that negatively effect non White people, right? Here ya go. Requiring a CCW permit IS open and overt discrimination against non Whites.

    Equity and inclusiveness DEMAND that Texas adopt constitutional carry, so our non White denizens can finally have equal rights.

  5. David Fagan says:
    April 18, 2021 at 9:58 am

    HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE’S MANNY!

  6. Ross says:
    April 18, 2021 at 10:20 am

    Domestic terrorists amendment:
    “Amend CSHB 1927 on page 16, line 27, between the underlined comma and “commits”, by inserting “or of an organization that engages in acts of domestic terrorism, as defined by 18 U.S.C. Section 2331,”.”

    White supremacist amendment:
    “Amend CSHB 1927 (house committee printing) on page 16, line 27, between the underlined comma and “commits”, by inserting the following:
    or who participates in or with an organization that engages in acts of insurrection, as defined by 18 U.S. Code § 2383, or is a violent white supremacist extremist, as defined by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.”

    You can look up the Federal stuff yourself. You can look up any bill in the Legislature here https://capitol.texas.gov/billLookup/billNumber.aspx

  7. Robbie Westmoreland says:
    April 18, 2021 at 10:30 am

    Dudes with swastika tattoos carrying Confederate battle flags storm the US Capitol building and Bill and David want you to believe that they’re fifth column antifa blm guerillas backed by European Jewish communist billionaires because that’s how stupid they believe most people are. Tucker Carlson parrots the exact same “replacement” BS spouted 100 years ago by leaders of the KKK, and Bill and David want us to agree with Tucker that there’s no such thing as white nationalism.

    Bill threatens us with armed insurrection, and then uses the exact same fingers to type messages pretending that the spectre of armed insurrection by his confederates is a myth created by the people he wants to keep from voting.

    It’d be nice to believe that more people have the critical thinking skills to reject the smoke they’re blowing. But there’s a reason they’re heirs to the exact same bigoted intellectual legacy that’s been poisoning discourse on this continent for 400 years (going back to the first “Christian” slave owners rationalizing the brutalizing of Africans). They believe we’re all that stupid because most of us are just that stupid.

    Oh, and no wonder the cops are trigger-happy, as it becomes easier and easier and easier for everyone else to carry guns.

  8. Bill Daniels says:
    April 18, 2021 at 10:52 am

    Robbie,

    That’s a lot of words, but you can’t reconcile the basic issue here. It’s predominantly White people, conservative pro-America folks, that are supporting a civil rights law that finally gives non Whites the same rights as White Texans….the ability to legally carry guns.

    So then the question becomes, who, exactly ARE the White supremacists? Are they people like me, who support the right of blacks and Mexicans to carry guns, or are they people like you, who want to continue to deprive blacks and Mexicans of their constitutional right to carry?

  9. David Fagan says:
    April 18, 2021 at 10:53 am

    Robbie,

    I don’t know how you’re putting my name into all that stuff you assume I have an opinion on, but I expected it anyway. I do not support anything you’re getting me into, nor do I support things Bill says. So, if you want to address something I’ve said, that’s fine, otherwise don’t make me into something you percieve me to be because you’d be making a mistake.

    The question I made is obviously a valid one, because there actually IS a definition of ‘white supremist’ in the amendment proposed.

    Carry on

  10. Bill Daniels says:
    April 18, 2021 at 11:28 am

    Speaking of armed insurrection….

    https://www.rt.com/usa/521381-maxine-waters-brooklyn-center-curfew/

    ” ‘We’ve got to get more confrontational!’ Rep. Maxine Waters shows up in Brooklyn Center, slams curfew & leaves before it kicks in
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    ‘We’ve got to get more confrontational!’ Rep. Maxine Waters shows up in Brooklyn Center, slams curfew & leaves before it kicks in
    US Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) is surrounded by members of the media as she makes an appearance outside the Brooklyn Center Police Department, April 17, 2021 © Reuters / Leah Millis

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    Congresswoman Maxine Waters made a sudden appearance in Brooklyn Center, the hotspot of week-long protests over the killing of Daunte Wright, 20, all but encouraging the crowd to defy an emergency curfew imposed by the city.

    Hundreds of protesters rallied outside Brooklyn Center, Minnesota police station for the seventh day in a row on Saturday, when US Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) showed up around 10:30pm to address the crowd with a brief and emotional speech.

    With less than 30 minutes before yet another emergency curfew was due to come into effect, journalists at the scene asked Maxine about the restrictions.

    “I don’t think anything about curfew, I don’t know what curfew means,” she said. “Curfew means that: ‘I want you all to stop talking, I want you to stop meeting, I want you to stop gathering.’ I don’t agree with that.”

    In addition to the Daunte Wright protests, law enforcement in Minnesota is bracing for a verdict in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin, the former police officer accused of killing George Floyd last year in nearby Minneapolis. Maxine also shared her view on what protesters should do if Chauvin is acquitted next week.

    We’ve got to stay on the streets. And we’ve got to get more active. We’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

    However, when asked if she personally was going to stay on the streets as the curfew was looming, Waters said: “I’m not gonna stay out here.”

    When will Maxine’s impeachment trial be occurring?

  11. Robert says:
    April 18, 2021 at 12:43 pm

    “Are they people like me, who support the right of blacks and Mexicans to carry guns, or are they people like you, who want to continue to deprive blacks and Mexicans of their constitutional right to carry?”

    Then the justification for shooting them will be, “They had a gun”….smh

  12. Robert says:
    April 18, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    You say it’s OK for them to carry guns…why don’t you feel the same way for them to vote……???

  13. Jason Hochman says:
    April 18, 2021 at 2:21 pm

    I grew up in the North, where it is legal to buy and open carry a gun, no permit needed.

    But let’s not lose of the ball here…the Biden mass shootings are continuing, another in Austin, and everyday Biden whistles his dog whistle to cause a shooting, as well as police killings. Also don’t lose of the kids taken from their parents and placed in cages. They are not social distancing and masking them up, and tossing them into the cages, and opening new cage facilities. It is time for impeachment.

  14. Manny says:
    April 18, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    I live rent-free in your mind, David.

  15. Manny says:
    April 18, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    I see the three nut cases, Bill, David, and Jason, are working together on this. If you combined their IQ could maybe get 100; if you combine their hate of others, it goes off the charts.

    They do love to tell lies.

  16. Jason Hochman says:
    April 18, 2021 at 6:10 pm

    Manny not lying here, Pennsylvania open carry has always been legal without a permit. Concealed carry requires a permit.
    https://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/open-carry/

    The cages are still at the border full of kids.

    Biden must be causing the shootings, just as Trump caused shootings when he was president. How can Trump be causing them now.

  17. Manny says:
    April 18, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    Jason, part of your problem is that you tend to embellish with words like “Always,” and you list Pennsylvania. There are some local in Pennsylvania jurisdictions that require permits. If you have a gun in the car, you need a license. Or the gun must be unloaded.

    Jason, Trumped upped the hate level, but the mass shootings are different. By your logic, the shooting in Los Vegas was Trump’s fault. Sixty-one people died.

    The El Paso shooting was a hate crime; one could point the finger at Trump for that. If you can point where Biden has said anything about hating anyone, you can blame him. But like I have stated, often, you are a liar and a racist.

    Can one open carry without a license in Philadelphia, Jason? The last time I checked, it was a city in Pennsylvania.

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