A chart is worth 11,483 words

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1. Patrick says:

   May 9, 2003 at 8:55 am

   Hmmm. Interesting graphic. As is prudent with any chart produced by a politician, I would like to know Congressman Waxman’s sources and data. I don’t doubt the number for the highest 1%. that strikes me as probably reasonably accurate. But I have some serious questions regarding the figure for the bottom 80%.

   I’d also like to know where the missing 19% of people would fall.

   Regardless, before Mr. Waxman feverishly incites the masses to rise up and strike those nasty wealthiest one percent of Americans, he needs to make sure the oppressed mobs don’t whack Bill Gates and Ted Turner until after they have paid their sizable tax bills and made their very generous charitable contributions.
2. Charles Kuffner says:

   May 9, 2003 at 9:48 am

   The accompanying PDF file makes the claim that 70% of taxpayers will get nothing from a dividend tax cut. I find that to be not too surprising, since most people don’t own stocks, and many stocks don’t pay dividends (that may change if this bill goes through).

   I agree that this graphic doesn’t tell the whole story, but that’s not what it’s about. It’s trying to make a point, and it’s clearly pretty effective at doing so.

   As far as the feverish mobs go, Waxman just has to ask them to wait until Bush’s 2001 tax bill expires, at which point the estate tax will be restored to its prior levels. 🙂
3. jesse says:

   May 9, 2003 at 11:29 am

   Regardless, before Mr. Waxman feverishly incites the masses to rise up and strike those nasty wealthiest one percent of Americans, he needs to make sure the oppressed mobs don’t whack Bill Gates and Ted Turner until after they have paid their sizable tax bills and made their very generous charitable contributions.–

   Of course, their tax bills would be more sizable if they didn’t make those charitable contributions…just saying.
4. Amy says:

   May 9, 2003 at 12:15 pm

   This is why I missed the blogging world, Chuck. People like you. Reading your site for the last week…well, when exactly is the Democratic Party going to hire you as a consultant? Hell, when are you running for office??? You’ve got my vote. 🙂
5. Patrick says:

   May 9, 2003 at 2:30 pm

   Of course, their tax bills would be more sizable if they didn’t make those charitable contributions…just saying.

   Yeah, I know. The tax break for charitable contributions does seem to call into question a person’s motivation. But I really believe the tax break, while undoubtedly is a nice bene, is not the primary motivation for a most people. I know it is not for my wife and I.
6. Charles M says:

   May 9, 2003 at 2:39 pm

   I can’t speak to Ted Turner but Bill Gates and at least one other notably non-poor individual (Warren Buffett) are very vocally against the tax cut.
7. patrick says:

   May 9, 2003 at 4:33 pm

   I can’t speak to Ted Turner but Bill Gates and at least one other notably non-poor individual (Warren Buffett) are very vocally against the tax cut.

   Which is exactly why the indiscriminate invitation to class warfare offered by Mr. Waxman and his report merrily entitled “The Dividend Tax Cut: Fortune 100 Corporate Executives Who Would Reap Huge Financial Benefits” is not really helpful to discussing the issue on a rational level. This is a visceral appeal intend to incite through division. It serves to demonize Bill Gates as the number one guy on the list without making mention that he in fact opposes the legislation. I can think of other reasons to demonize Bill Gates but this ain’t it.
8. Matt Weiner says:

   May 9, 2003 at 5:11 pm

   Please, please, please, can we add the absolute income levels? As I understand, 19% of people think they’re in the top 1% of income. But I’m sure those extra 18% know they don’t make $370K a year (I think that’s the cutoff for top 1%).

   I think the point is not to incite the masses to hang the rich people. Just to point out that we masses aren’t getting diddly from this stupid bill, and a bunch of people who are already doing fine, thank you, are getting a lot.
9. Matt Weiner says:

   May 9, 2003 at 5:12 pm

   Oh, and “class warfare”? The Republicans are practicing class warfare, and that chart proves it.
10. Andy says:

    July 24, 2003 at 10:40 pm

    What that chart is also saying is that currently the wealthiest 1% are paying THAT DISPROPORTIONATE of an amount of tax on dividends. Remember–this is not a “give away”, this is money that people would ordinarily pay but won’t have to now and is based on a percentage of what they earn as part owners of publically traded corporations! So, fellow bottom 80%ers, are we doing OUR PART?

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