The universe works in mysterious ways.
Louie Gohmert
U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Tyler, has tested positive for the new coronavirus, he said in an interview with East Texas Now where he speculated that he may have caught the virus from wearing his mask.
Gohmert, who spends ample time on the U.S. House floor without a mask, was one of several Texas officials scheduled to fly to West Texas this afternoon with President Donald Trump. He took one test, which tested positive, then took a second test during a pre-screen at the White House which also tested positive.
“I can’t help but wonder … if I injected the virus into my mask when I was moving,” he said in an interview.
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Gohmert said he received guidance from the doctors at the White House and the attending physician at the Capitol that he only needed to self-quarantine for 10 days. He said he will drive back to his East Texas home and that his staff is all getting tested for the virus.
“Like Dorothy said, there’s no place like home,” Gohmert said.
The Republican lawmaker has been known for speaking at length with Capitol colleagues while not adhering to social distancing guidelines. Last month, he told CNN that he was not wearing a mask because he was getting tested regularly for the virus.
“I don’t have the coronavirus, turns out as of yesterday I’ve never had it,” he said in June. “But if I get it, you’ll never see me without a mask.”
We’ll see about that. Gohmert is truly one of the worst people in Congress, and one of the worst in Texas. He has spent his long, miserable career in Congress working to make his district, the state, and the country a worse, poorer, meaner, dumber, unhealthier, less safe, and more violent place. According to Slate, Gohmert “returned to his congressional office after his positive test to personally inform his staff of the result”, which is to say he knowingly put his entire staff at risk for no good reason. I have one wish for Louie Gohmert, and that’s that he gain some small measure of empathy for everyone who has suffered from this pandemic. I don’t have much hope for that wish, but it’s what I’ve got. The Chron and Mother Jones have more.
There’s also reports that staff members who wanted to wear masks got bullied over it. The de-evolution of the GOP into authoritarian death cult is almost complete.
Gohmert will be taking HCQ to treat the Wu flu.
https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1288799343135293441
It’s a good thing liberal Texans eschew that treatment, so there is plenty of HCQ for those who actually want it. And the best news for Gohmert is, HCQ has the best effect when the Wu flu is caught early, which it sounds like it was in Gohmert’s case, since he obviously didn’t think he had it.
Stay tuned.
Herman Cain is dead
No mask, no sympathy. The best case scenario would be that he recovered, saw the error of his ways, and educated others. But he’s still a cautionary tale- mask up people.
Bill,
Gohmert can say he is taking Bayer aspirin, bleach smoothies and UV light pole sitting treatment.
Won’t change all the credible research and medical studies that disprove the effectiveness of HCQ.
RIP Hermann Cain. “Aww shucky ducky”
Bill,
Gohmert could say he taking aspirin, bleach smoothies and UV light pole sitting for treatment.
Won’t change the vast research and medical studies that prove the ineffectiveness of HCQ. Glad to see your lies are still around to mock.
RIP Hermann Cain. “Aww shucky ducky”
Ana Navarro-Cárdenas @ananavarro
Herman Caín thought Covid was a hoax, scoffed at wearing a mask. Died of Covid.
Bill Montgomery, co-founder of pro-Trump, Turning Point USA, scoffed at virus. Died of Covid.
Rep. Gohmert refused to wear a mask. Has Covid.
See a pattern?
Covid doesn’t care about partisanship.
“ Covid doesn’t care about partisanship.”
But it’s happy to take advantage of it. Trump chose to make eschewing masks an act of fealty to him. This is Jonestown in slow motion.
Jules, how is that possible…it’s just a flu, smh
Trump doesn’t believe it, but according to his own people, he’s the most tested person in the world.
I guess he learned after ignoring syphilis ……
Louie, Louie, Louie…. (with apologies to The Kingsmen)
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
Interesting to see there’s no mention of anyone using HCQ treatment in an effort to save Herman Cain…
Where’s Dr. Jason H. when you need him ?
Herman Caine had stage 4 cancer, in his 70’s. Think about what the cancer treatments did to ravage his immune system. The guy was already dying, and decided not to lock himself in his basement like Joe Biden and go out and live what life he had left.
Just before Trump’s disastrous Tulsa rally, Joe Biden gave a speech in Philadelphia. Not in his basement.
C.L –
For a moment I thought I was being summoned. Then I remembered that I’ve only commented here like twice, and you were referring to a certain other Jason H that has some more, shall we say interesting, opinions. Thanks for the laugh on that, I needed it today.
(For the record, I am not a medical doctor either, just medicine adjacent).
Hey Bill, turns out Herman Cain had stage 4 cancer, but not lately. From ABC13- “Cain launched two unsuccessful presidential runs in 2000 and 2004. In 2006, he was diagnosed with stage IV liver and colon cancer, but he said in 2007 he was cancer-free.” So your narrative is pure BS. Cain wasn’t a dying old man. He was in good health until he ran into some jerk in Tulsa who wasn’t wearing a mask. Now he is dead.
Bill,
The Republican Party has stage 4 Trump cancer, in its 150’s. Think about what Trump did to ravage its faltering electoral system. The guy was already dying, and decided to go out with a full on George Wallace, white grievance bang and not to lock itself in his basement like Archie Bunker and decided to go out and live what life he had left and announce proudly its racism.
GOP 2020 RIP
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I’ve seen the particular fiction Bill is pushing on multiple online places- probably official Trumpalo talking points rather than Bill’s original thoughts. Their writers really suck.
C L, I heard that you were asking for my opinion. I’m not a doctor, however. I just follow The Science. The hate and rage from CNN and the anti-Trump crowd have led me to take a break from reading anything about corona virus.
But to answer Manny, COVID is very concerned about partisanship. It is a highly selective virus. Massive protests going on for the last two months, featuring people camping out together, getting violent, and spending hours on end together are exempt, but the virus sees anti shutdown protests as fair game, and it also doesn’t want school to start, doesn’t want churches to have services, and prohibits any other large gathering. In Washington, DC, there is a requirement for everyone to wear masks, but the DC government workers in the judicial and legislative branches are exempted while they work. So, if you are a clerk in the government judicial office, the virus will not bother you, but, if you are a clerk in a private business, you are fair game. Also, we see frequent stories about someone saying that masks are ineffective getting infected, but never any stories about someone wearing a mask religiously and getting infected. Clearly, either all of the people who have become infected didn’t wear masks, and the mask is 100% effective, or, maybe the virus just knows your belief about masks? Someone needs to sit down and interview this virus, so that it can tell us to vote for the right candidate.
If you are truly following the science, you would know:
1) Indoors is riskier than outdoors.
2) No mask is riskier than mask.
3) The closer the proximity the other people outside your household/pod, the greater the risk.
4) The longer the time spent in any of the riskier options, the greater the risk.
With all that in mind, you should be able to do some quick and dirty risk calculations. Going to an outdoor protest, even with a mask, is obviously riskier than staying home. But it’s also less risky than spending a few hours in an indoor bar, or several days at an indoor political convention, especially if not wearing a mask is the predominant political statement. Clerks of all types ought to be wearing masks; with few exceptions EVERYONE ought to be wearing a mask outside their home if their are going to be getting close to other people.
What has happened to the USA was not inevitable. This is what we get when we scorn expertise and trash the safety net.
Jared and his little school chums decided that the federal government would do nothing about the virus since it was only hitting blue states. They thought the virus would only target democrats and republicans would be spared.
Jared and his little school chums are complicit in the deaths of 150,000 Americans and counting.
So yes, the virus is very concerned about partisanship, and thrives on Republican idiocy and hatred.
And Charles, that is a ridiculously flattering picture of Gohmert. Can you find something a little more true to life?
Jason H, I keep reading that Republicans and Trump lovers tend to be at the bottom of the intellectual barrel.
One I quote Navarro, so you are not responding to anything I wrote.
Like Bill Daniels you tend to rely on lies to try to prove your points, why not just stick to facts. What churches are prohibited from having service?
As to the last part of the babbling, it does not makes sense, does one have to go Trump university to understand the babbling?
Like I stated above, lies or stupidity is what Trump lovers rely on, below is a link as to what DC requires. You are full BS no wonder you may be having trouble getting a job.
https://coronavirus.dc.gov/maskorder
Well, to change topics…
….I heard that Trump University is playing a full football schedule this Fall with 100% capacity of fans in Ivanka Stadium.
No masks allowed because Congressman Gohmert said he got COVID due to him touching his mask.
Manny, I have not posted any lies, nor does the babbling make sense because it is distilled from what the experts tell us. Here’s the line from line from the DC mask order:
2. The enforcement provisions of this Order shall not be applied to persons in the judicial or legislative branches of the District government while those persons are on duty; and shall not apply to any employees of the federal government while they are on duty.
Flypusher, you should watch the video of Fauci stumbling along trying to answer Jim Jordan about whether or not Fauci would recommend the government outlawing protests. Fauci kept repeating that crowds are more dangerous than staying at home but refused to give an opinion about protests. Of course, he can’t outlaw protests or order businesses to close or ban large gatherings, but he hasn’t hesitated to give opinions about these things. You can see why he’s been in a government job for 50 years and managed to keep his job.
By the way, you keep adding me into the boat of Trump supporters, because that is your binary view of the world. I’m no fan of Trump, but it is impossible to support the hate and rage of the Democrats and the media such as CNN which are as bad as FOX news in their willingness to sacrifice minority lives in order to discredit Trump.
Jason did you bother to read the ordinance for DC or do you limit yourself to Fox lies? “Distilled” = babble
If it quacks like a Trump lover, if it walks like a Trump lover, one would assume that it is a Trump lover. Jason that is you.
Jason which church is prohibited from have service? You did not answer that.
There a few that were closed for failure to follow guide lines. But if the faithful believe that God will protect them, they can lock themselves in the church, food, water, and all the other necessities will appear because God will provide for them.
Like I stated Trump lovers are left with lies to promote.
“ Fauci kept repeating that crowds are more dangerous than staying at home but refused to give an opinion about protests.”
He’s also refused to state the obvious fact that Trump is an ignoramus who has made this crisis worse than it had to be due to multiple boneheaded decisions, the worst of them being making masks a cultural war issue. My point is that he’s not going to make a political declaration to please either side. Yes, it’s to keep his job, and he’s calculated that keeping his job is how he does the most good. The guy has an excellent track record in public health (go look at what he did during the AIDS epidemic), working with Presidents from both parties. That’s why he gets the benefit of the doubt from me. He’s humble, he’s got compassion, he’s not trying to enrich himself off this. He’ll change his recommendations if the data warrants it, rather than refuse to admit error. His body of work speaks for itself, just like Trump’s does.
Manny, I believe that churches in Harris County were not allowed to hold services, until there was a lawsuit. Am I incorrect? I admit that I may recall that incorrectly. I have not lied, an opinion is an opinion, if I stated a fact then it is a fact, and not a fabrication. I read the ordinance for DC, and I pasted the relevant line, about the government workers exempt when they are working. So is that a lie? Can you explain why it is OK for a judicial clerk to be exempt, but a clerk in a private office is not?
Flypusher, Fauci is no hero. He lied to us about masks. He kind of said that he did, but he didn’t come out and use that word. Of course, why did he need to lie–he said to stop people from buying supplies needed by medical workers–but that doesn’t hold water when we found out that any old face covering will do. Larry Kramer wrote an open letter to Fauci during the AIDS epidemic, accused him of costing many lives. He doesn’t need to enrich himself; he’s already rich. He also has been less than honest about hydroxychlorquine. Fauci and his boss, Francis Collins don’t seem to have any empathy. I saw them have a conversation on You Tube, and they were talking about their 20 something grand kids, how they just want to get out there. Flippantly they seem to imply that the biggest inconvenience is that these crazy kids won’t be able to dance at the nightclub for a few more months. No understanding of the people getting evicted, losing their livelihoods, increases in suicide, substance abuse, violent crime, overdose, domestic abuse. They are rich, and have no such worries.
Welcome back, Dr. Hochman !
>> He lied to us about masks.
He absolutely was wrong about masks at the beginning. But he corrected course when the data came in. That’s what an honest scientist does. Compare that to a certain someone who keeps insisting that the coronavirus is “going to fade away”, even though there are so far no facts in evidence.
>>Of course, why did he need to lie–he said to stop people from buying supplies needed by medical workers–but that doesn’t hold water when we found out that any old face covering will do.
So you forget how people went nuts and hoarded toilet paper? It wasn’t unreasonable to fear a run on PPE. Now I do think that particular explanation/excuse was not necessary- just saying “we’ve changed our recommendations on masks in light of new evidence” would have been enough.
>>He also has been less than honest about hydroxychlorquine.
So what properly run clinical trials support using that drug for Covid-19?
>>Fauci and his boss, Francis Collins don’t seem to have any empathy. I saw them have a conversation on You Tube, and they were talking about their 20 something grand kids, how they just want to get out there. Flippantly they seem to imply that the biggest inconvenience is that these crazy kids won’t be able to dance at the nightclub for a few more months. No understanding of the people getting evicted, losing their livelihoods, increases in suicide, substance abuse, violent crime, overdose, domestic abuse. They are rich, and have no such worries.
So one conversation overrides a whole lifetime of work? If they are so rich and have no worries and don’t care, then why haven’t they cashed in their pensions and rode off into the sunset to live it up? Their jobs during a pandemic are stressful enough, and then there’s the added aggravation of tip-toeing around the ignorant whiney orange man-baby. Why put up with that if you don’t care?
I’ll freely admit that I have bemoaned a loss of normalcy among friends who have similar economic stability. It’s human to miss things that have been taken away. That doesn’t mean that we are unaware of the people who are worse off. That’s why we won’t be voting for any Republicans- we know who trashed the safety net.
Jason, one can’t teach stupid as a former teacher for 20 years, I learned that someone that does not have the mental capacity to learn will not learn other than the basic things to survive.
As one person once told me, we should have a stupid tax as we could get then get rid of the property tax.
Jason “doesn’t want churches to have services” again where were churches prohibited from having services?
The in person service was banned, not the service. There is a difference but I don’t think you are capable to comprehend the difference.
For the sake of Jason H.s everywhere, I feel I have to add a little to this conversation.
On masks: Fauci never lied about masks, but he did (and admitted it on later information) make suggestions that later proved to be the incorrect way to go. You have to remember that at the start of this pandemic, there were a couple of major factors to consider.
1 – Non N-95 masks are not substantially effective at preventing inhalation of respiratory droplets. They’re better than nothing, but people were already starting to stockpile N-95 masks and we were seeing significant shortages. Use of regular masks is only really effective if EVERYONE is wearing them, and I don’t think anyone saw that as an option here at first.
2 – Early data suggested that the virus lasted well on surfaces, and this would be a primary mode of contagion more like influenza (remember the hand-washing and sanitizer spree?). This later turned out to be not really the case. If it were, however, mask wearing in an untrained populace is actively dangerous due to the excess touching (studies have shown this – mask wearing really doesn’t prevent the flu, for example, as it spreads better on surfaces).
It’s easy to see how these data points contribute to a request not to go buy N-95 masks and save them for medical professionals.
On HCQ:
This one bothers me whenever I see people arguing who don’t read, or don’t know how to read, medical literature. Are there studies out there that show some efficacy of HCQ in treating covid? Yes. HOWEVER – virtually all of these studies are small, or not properly double blinded. As a result, they suffer from noise artifacts in statistical analysis (I actually went back and re-reviewed the findings before writing this).
Larger scale studies have since repeatedly found that HCQ has no significant effect on mortality in covid. On a much harder to study side, there was some preliminary data that it could reduce recovery time and symptoms, but the data is still out on that as nearly every large scale study was forced to stop due to significant side effects prior to having sufficient data to analyze the secondary effects (notably most large scale studies found that likelihood of cardiac arrest increased by 10-50% in HCQ treated patients due to the side effects, though this did not increase mortality – we can treat those arrests).
I know everyone also likes to bring up the couple of high profile retractions of papers demonstrating limited to no impact from HCQ, but it’s important to note that those papers were retracted due to flaws in the database used to gather information, not the findings being in question. Notably, one of the two has subsequently been republished using a more reliable database with effectively the same results.
In sum – there may be some slight improvement in recovery when treating with HCQ, but this is offset by substantial side effects and not really recommended. I really don’t know why we’re even still having this argument, as the data for treatment with Remdesevir and Dexamethasone have both been more favorable (though the former certainly suffers from cost vs efficacy issues). I promise you the treating doctors in hospitals have far more important things to do than break medical ethics to stick it to Donald Trump. When they’re not treating patients with HCQ, it’s because it’s not the safest, most effective treatment they can offer.
Yeah, I understand the difference, I’m not completely stupid, I just recognize the hate that pours out of CNN, etc. So, you are saying that Fauci should have spoken up and said that in person protests should be stopped, but protests in general should not be banned. OK, he should’ve said that–you can protest on Zoom or Facebook streaming.
Jason H–Fauci said that the reason he told us that masks can make you more likely to get infected (because you will touch them or touch your face more often) was because they wanted to make sure that the public wouldn’t buy up supplies needed by medical workers. That is what I call a lie. Maybe that’s just semantics.
However, there are no new data that I know of. And he never explicitly retracted his statement about touching the masks could put people more at risk. At least not to my knowledge. Is that still true? If it is, I see many people at risk because they are constantly messing around with the masks, wearing them around their necks, taking them off to eat at a restaurant, all without hand washing each time.
There was recently a study on HCQ published by the Henry Ford Medical Institute which showed that hospitalized patients had better outcomes with HCQ. Now, Fauci was sure to criticize this study because it was not a double blind placebo controlled clinical trial. It was a retrospective observational study. As far as I can tell, there has not been a prospective clinical trial of HCQ in COVID. But that is no reason to dismiss promising results and act as though there should not be further studies, such as clinical trials, to evaluate it as a therapeutic. It increases immune response, and might work similar to the BCG vaccine which is being tried as a preventative for COVID.
Government will not take care of you. Perhaps it will try to do what is best for society or the country at large but not necessarily you individually.
There is so much misinformation from our government about this. The CDC web site has a review paper posted that shows wearing a mask and hand washing had no effect during prior influenza outbreaks and pandemics. Jeremy Samuel Faust wrote a paper saying that influenza deaths have been way way over estimated. All of the fear instilled in us to encourage flu vaccines has all been fake, according to him. He’s never seen a patient die of the flu. Why should we trust their COVID numbers? All states are reporting differently. The PCR tests vary wildly in the amount of virus particles that they can detect, and all of them have accuracy well below 100%. The inventor of PCR never intended for it to be used as a diagnostic, and he happened to believe that HIV virus didn’t cause AIDS
Dr. Fauci has just stated for the record, before Congress, if a properly done study of HCQ shows a net positive effect for treating Covid-19, he’ll back it up. Trump believes the universe revolves around him, and his sycophants are hair-trigger quick to accuse his critics of being motivated first and foremost by hatred of Trump in everything they do, but as my fellow scientist correctly states, there are plenty of other motivations, like saving people’s lives, that have a higher priority.
The fact that Trump won’t back off HCQ merits further investigation. While it could be simply more of his pig-headed refusal to admit error, I have to wonder if he’s got some financial stake in this. Greed motivates him as much as ego.
JHoch states- “…I just recognize the hate that pours out of CNN, etc.” Huhnh? It is really too bad that your hero Trump and his grovelling sycophants are outright failing to spin the pandemic response disaster, but it isn’t the fault of the media. After weeks of aimless drivel JHoch, you finally get down to it, not an attack on the atrocious lies of the GOP and Trump, but a lame attack on Dr Fauci. And just for a little icing on the cake, the flu never killed anyone, and the Covid numbers are unreliable, so it probably isn’t a real threat. Perfect.
Flypusher, yes Fauci said that, but when so called experts dismiss the entire idea of the treatment, it makes it less likely that someone will do a prospective trial. Not sure how much Trump could profit from a low cost out of patent drug, as opposed to Fauci benefiting from Remdesivir, which is way more expensive. The two of them are like stock cars running around the oval with their sponsors plastered all over them. I don’t trust either one.
How do you know what Trump believes? Have you spoken to him? Or just believing CNN or some other rage and hate based source. I am not a big fan of Russell Brand but he put a video on You Tube recently about why the left can’t handle Trump. Basically stated that the media have trivialized the issues by reducing the dialogue to ridicule and pointing out that Trump is much more witty than anyone in the media, and is able to connect with crowds. For what it’s worth, Brand is not supporting Trump as a candidate but he has met Trump before, unlike those of who believe that he things the world revolves him, just because CNN said so.
>>Flypusher, yes Fauci said that, but when so called experts dismiss the entire idea of the treatment, it makes it less likely that someone will do a prospective trial. Not sure how much Trump could profit from a low cost out of patent drug, as opposed to Fauci benefiting from Remdesivir, which is way more expensive. The two of them are like stock cars running around the oval with their sponsors plastered all over them. I don’t trust either one.
Scientists are a highly competitive bunch. In the early days of figuring something out, they take their positions, they argue, they experiment, they argue some more, but they eventually get enough results and reach a consensus. Any and all drugs that could improve patient outcomes should be tested, and the more we can keep these goddamned politics out of the process, the sooner than will happen. Test them all, with adherence to the most rigorous standards. Fauci’s doubts, at this point, have far more grounds in science than Trump’s premature declaration that HCQ is some miracle cure. But Fauci will go with the evidence in the end, even if it contradicts the position he has right now. Do you think Trump would do the same if the verdict of the data falls against his position?
>>How do you know what Trump believes? Have you spoken to him? Or just believing CNN or some other rage and hate based source.
Are you freaking kidding me? Trump has a track record of decades in the public eye. Look at what he does. Look at what he says. Look how he treats people who do not suck up to him. I cannot read his mind, but when you see someone who constantly makes false boasts about himself, whines, bullies, and trolls, what’s the more logical conclusion- someone who’s is a wretched, cruel, dishonest, self-centered person, or someone who’s really a nice guy at heart pretending to be a wretched, cruel, dishonest, self-centered person?
FYI, I first heard of Trump back in the 1980’s, when he was reveling in the publicity his deliberate destruction of his 1st marriage generated. I concluded back then that he was reprehensible. Every time since then when he has come to my attention, he’s provided more evidence of just how rotten his is. He was threatening to cut off funds for the medical care of his critically ill great nephew (the grandson of the late older brother he claims to love and miss) over an inheritance dispute. What kind of person does that? He won’t apologize for demanding the death sentence for 5 young men falsely convicted and cleared by DNA evidence (I’m sure it’s just coincidence that they are Black and Brown). Is that the sort of person who deserves the benefit of the doubt?
>>I am not a big fan of Russell Brand but he put a video on You Tube recently about why the left can’t handle Trump. Basically stated that the media have trivialized the issues by reducing the dialogue to ridicule and pointing out that Trump is much more witty than anyone in the media, and is able to connect with crowds.
Hitler was good at connecting with crowds too. That didn’t make him a good person. Although, on the personal level, Hitler was probably much better company than Trump. And for Trump’s wit, if 3rd grade playground is your level, sure.
>>For what it’s worth, Brand is not supporting Trump as a candidate but he has met Trump before, unlike those of who believe that he things the world revolves him, just because CNN said so.
Actually Trump himself has said so himself, multiple times. Here’s one example for you:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7414327/Trump-told-racism-museum-founder-love-Netherlands-response-Dutch-slavery.html
I can provide more.
To quote Maya Angelou: “When someone shows you who he is, believe him”. Trump keeps telling you that he is a dishonest, mean, self-centered person. You refuse to believe him, and that’s on you. He is reaping what he has spent decades sowing, and you are bemused that so many people hate him.
Jen, once again, it seems there is a response that can’t have a rational discussion and is entirely unable to debate, or analyze different ideas.
I don’t know how many times I’ve had to point out I am not a Trump supporter. There are better choices for president, but they are not Biden. In office for 8 years, Biden was unable to stop systemic racism, and although the US was the best prepared nation for a pandemic in 2019 (per the Global Health Index), Biden left us with a for profit medical care system instead of single payer that we all wanted. Even today, Biden doesn’t want to abolish the police.
My lame attack on Fauci is needed, because he is hailed as some kind of hero, when he is self serving, misleading, and would happily sign us all up for COVI PASS, or have us hauled off to detention if we test positive for corona virus. He seems to have little or no remorse. He hasn’t seen a patient in decades, if ever, yet he wants to contradict doctors who are treating patients.
I did not say that the flu never killed anyone, The Science did, in a piece written by an Expert. Go and read it. The data for COVID numbers are awful. The PCR tests are not reliable, most states include probably cases in their totals, people who test positive twice are included twice, etc. What we do know is that if you are infected with the corona virus, you are most likely to have a response ranging from asymptomatic to mild or moderate illness, which is self limiting. That is The Science and The Data.
This doesn’t mean that the virus is not a real threat. I take it seriously, and would recommend that others do so. That doesn’t mean going overboard, nor does it mean simply saying that it’s all because of Trump. In Texas we are fortunate to have a good government that has limited deaths unlike, for example New York.
Now we see that Representative Grijalva has tested positive for corona virus, and so the news should write a big story about how he probably touched his mask with filthy hands, but of course, they won’t. The only story is if someone is against the mask and that person gets corona virus.
“The inventor of PCR never intended for it to be used as a diagnostic, and he happened to believe that HIV virus didn’t cause AIDS”
As someone with a molecular biology background, who’s been witness to the birth and expansion of this technology, I would say so what? People took his basic idea (which was quite good) and improvised on it and expanded on it in ways that he didn’t imagine. It can indeed have use as a diagnostic, but I know through personal experience if you go too fast and cut corners, you get false results. The tests are a work in progress, and there is pressure to have it now, now, NOW. I get that, but I’ve also seen colleagues burned by too much haste. The pressure to publish 1st is bad enough, and now there’s a pandemic. It’s a tough balance. It’s going to get sorted out, but it looks painfully slow from the perspective of people who want their normal lives back.
Linus Pauling once thought that vitamin C was cure-all for numerous ailments (no more common cold!). He was a smart dude, and right about many things, but he got that one wrong. Just like Kary Mullis wasn’t right about HIV/AIDS. You do get some deference for expertise/reputation in science, but you still have to make your case each time you offer an opinion/hypothesis.
Jason you have stated something that can be perceived to be true, “I’m not completely stupid”. Are you worse than Trump only you know that, how stupid is Trump, well there is this video of Trump on math, but then again he , also wondered whether we could inject Lysol to get rid of the virus.
https://youtu.be/iMIKzUAY8n4
Jason H the scientist – great explanation, thanks.
Jason Hochman – if you don’t like CNN, don’t watch it, I get along fine without it. And please re-read Jason H the scientist’s comment, it answers many of your concerns.
Please, nobody listen to the quacks from Baylor and Texas A&M. They’re obviously Trump plants.
https://thetexan.news/baylor-cardiologists-support-hydroxychloroquine-emergency-use-authorization-by-fda/
We need to focus on what’s really germane here…..Orange Man bad said HCQ could help. Orange Man bad. Therefore, anything Orange Man endorses or supports in any way = also bad.
Settled science = there are 57 genders.
Also settled science = HCQ+zithromycin+zinc can’t possibly help anyone and will kill everyone who gets it.
Settled math = 2+2 /= 4, because maths is racist, also because muh patriarchy.
It’s weird….under normal circumstances, doctors and patients are allowed to have differences of opinion regarding treatments, and the efficacy of various treatments….except for this ONE specific treatment, for one specific issue. Has that ever happened before, in the history of medicine? Seriously asking.
It’s also weird how HCQ+azithromycin+zinc is used as the standard treatment in other countries, but it’s not controversial in those countries, ‘it just is what it is.’ What’s the difference between the US and those other countries?
A: The other countries aren’t desperate to get rid of Orange Man bad. The other countries are just trying to manage and get through the CCP virus.
It’s weird that it took this long before the cheese started to slide off the cracker for Bill.
“It’s also weird how HCQ+azithromycin+zinc is used as the standard treatment in other countries, but it’s not controversial in those countries, ‘it just is what it is.’ What’s the difference between the US and those other countries?”
Just spitballing here, but I’d say a plethora of highly educated, licensed Doctors from reputable institutions of higher learning, governed by law and regulations instituted by a competent, (relatively) trustworthy Federal body that’s staffed with the same quality of folks who adhere to good science.
Demon Sperm Doctors need not apply.